So there’s been all this talk about copyright and videos becoming unavailable and stuff recently. I’ve mostly been exposed to WGM related ones since I started softsubbing them…
These are just my personal thoughts. Feel free to leave comments…but something more intelligent than “Kyaa! They ^$*& suck!” would be much appreciated…^^
First, I’d like to state where I stand in this, to disclaim any bias.
I have no affiliation with any of the TV stations or any media corporations. I own no stocks of any kind (sob) and I am not making any profit through my meddling in love for K-pop. I do not have any access to Korean TV and any exposure to K-pop I get is through the internet. I do try to buy officially released DVD’s and CD’s whenever available, even though shipping sometimes costs more than the product itself. ^^;; I have had my youtube accounts deleted for the clips I had up… but I figured it was somewhat expected, all things considered.
Having said that, I cannot blame the TV stationsfor claiming their rights and having vids removed from internet.
The first argument I’ve read about them is…
“They’re not losing any money by having them up! It’s not like it’s available in English for us to buy anyway!”
Well.. yes. They are losing money by having them up. The issue is not that they’re not losing money since foreigners can’t buy these. The issue is that Koreans won’t buy their online service if the videos are up. There are paid internet distributions in Korea… but obviously, if the videos uploaded by foreigners are available to be viewed in Korea, Koreans will watch it too. -_-;;
There is actually a way around this. You can host the video on a foreign country and have it blocked for views in Korea where the paid service is available. It’s not really much more legal, I’m afraid… but probably less likely to have your videos removed or get sued in the end. I recommend hosting in Sweden. ^^;;; It’s actually still illegal even in Sweden but they’ll have to muddle through all the other pirates there before coming to hunt you down. It’ll probably costs you a lot of money though to have that much broadband. If you’re too cheap/lazy/don’t care enough/computer illiterate/etc. to take these measures… well…. at least stop complaining. ^^;;; Know your risks, take them if the risks are acceptable to you.
If you’re a viewer and not an uploader.. I think it’s really too much to expect other people will break a law for you….. so please don’t take it for granted.
The second argument I’ve read is…
“They should be just grateful to have people outside of Korea watching them!”
I’m sure they’re happy people outside of Korea likes the shows. Other than the irritating self-important tone I’ve read in many comments like this, I’m sure they’re grateful that people like the shows overseas. That does NOT translate to giving out free products. For example, if I owned a Korean restaurant, I’d think it’d be cool and flattering when foreign people got introduced to Korean foods and liked them. Does not mean that I’d give out free food on regular basis. Maybe samples. But not large amounts of free food on regular basis just because the customer was foreign.
The third argument is…
“The subs belong to the subbers and the fans! They have no right to remove them!!”
Uh… as one of the subbers, I disclaim all rights to the subs/videos uploaded. -_-;;; I only have softsubs and even those, I think it’d be hard to claim that I own them really. I might own them more than just a regular viewer, but not really compared to the TV stations since the content is really from them. It’s like… if I translated a book, I’d be a translator, not an author. I really do want to cover my own legal behind. Please don’t claim it’s mine in my stead when I don’t really want to claim it as mine. ^^;;;;;
Plus, the video that the subs are on definitely do belong to the TV stations. If you put a little thing on top of a large thing that someone else owns, that large thing does not automatically become yours. -_-;;;;; Yes. They have every right to remove them.
The fourth argument…
“It’s racist that they’re deleting the videos because that’s just targeting the overseas fans! I’m going to boycott anything Korea related!!”
I don’t know if I should even bother to add a reply to these type of ignorant reverse-racism comments I’ve read. -_-;;; I was really surprised at exactly how many of them there were. I had retained hope that still the majority of the world was made up of people of three digit IQ’s… and I had hoped that the prejudice against netizens that people who comment on internet are just ignorant immature pre-teens was just that… prejudice. Please don’t prove me wrong.
The fifth argument…
“It’s not available in English so I can’t buy it. Why can’t they release it it English quickly like the fansubbers?”
This one… I think is reasonably good argument. I hope that things will be quickly released officially with English subs in the future. But realistically, I don’t think they’re all that slow. I guess variety shows are not really all that commonly released yet… but maybe they will be in the future. Or maybe they’ll be available online. It’s funny how quickly people expect things. I remember that 2 years ago when I started , people were happy with LQ 2 minute subbed clips of anything. Now, everyone expects whole hours of every entertaining show to be available in HQ the day it’s aired in Korea (maybe I did have some bad influence on these expectations…^^;;;;)
Honestly, I think it’d be good if these are released officially at any future, even when it takes a year. That’s still better than some anime I used to watch. ^^;; You don’t go around swearing at TV shows from other random countries that they aren’t subbing it all to English, right? (or maybe you do and I just don’t know…^^;;;;) It costs a lot of money. It takes a lot of time. Hopefully, they can work with fansubbers… but even then, it would take a bit longer since official releases actually have to be proofread and things.
I’m always surprised when people comment “8 hours! I didn’t know it took that long to sub!!” Umm… How long did you expect? When a show is 1.5 hours, even watching it a couple of times to proofread a few things is going to take four hours. -_-;; I thought 8 hours was damn good and I’m sure anyone who has experience in subbing will agree with me.
In the end… I think… looking at the viewcounts on youtube… I think 20-30 000 people watch these outside of Korea. I wonder if even 10% of them will be willing to buy the official releases if it were available. I wonder if it’s even financially feasible to have these out as official releases for a few thousand viewers who are willing to pay. When I read multiple complaining posts asking the same questions that came up few posts earlier about where to watch these videos… Hmm.. I really doubt people who are too lazy to scroll down a few posts and read them will be willing to pay for the official releases. Considering how much it would cost to release them, I can’t blame the TV stations if they don’t release the programs officially.
I guess what would help is if everyone showed the copyright owners that we do care and we they will buy official releases. If you wanna be constructive and tell them that there are lots of fans wanting official releases, please go here:
Ok.. this rambling’s getting too long. Hope I haven’t offended anyone. ^^